Did you notice any indication they went around on their own already? Any of those and probably a few other options seem like it could have prevented the accident altogether, at the cost of a relatively minor inconvenience to either ‘4SR or ‘1DA. The rule is Aviate, Navigate, Communicate, you don’t make any radio communications until you have an established and controlled climb. Last Edited by Peter at 30 Dec Last Edited by boscomantico at 30 Dec Post as a guest Name. Surely he should have told him to continue downwind and, above all, that he was number two in traffic to another Cirrus on a one mile final.
Threads possibly related to this one A busy week ahead. Top ATC assists Survive: He had two IMHO equally reasonable options: With so much crap being talked on the radio its a wonder there was any communication. We had a similar thing here a year or two ago at Southend EGMC , where a student pilot crashed when asked to orbit.
Was he renting by any chance? The pilot jammed full throttle on quickly when at the limits of performance and couldn’t maintain control. Fire in the Cockpit Real Pilot Story: Stuff like ATC is taken care of later. The animation and analysis really brings it home.
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Sign up using Email and Password. Here’s an aircraft in this case, ‘1DA on final approach for landing on a towered airport, when another aircraft ‘4SR is cleared to accident the traffic pattern, and gets cleared to land before they turn base, without ATC mentioning the aircraft already on final.
We had a similar thing here a year or two ago at Southend EGMCwhere a student pilot crashed when asked to communidation. According to the information provided, this was reasonably experienced pilot, with lots of hours in make and model, flying a very simple VFR approach to his home airport. Yes, this is a towered, controlled airport; ATC should be the one to inform the incoming aircraft about the one on final.
He had two IMHO equally reasonable options: The pilots was not incorrect in his approach actions but made a critical go-around error and may have been a low brrakdown, dirty config, stall. Once the pilot of ‘4SR is made aware of the traffic already on final, they make what I can only describe as a hasty attempt at an evasive maneuver which results in ‘4SR crashing into the ground, killing everyone aboard ‘4SR.
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Any time, you as a pilot hear that you should build the habit to just go around. As an ultimate fall back you are always supposed to “see and avoid”. There is not much of a reason to just crash out of the airport circuit.
I see that frequently. Yes, reentering the downwind leg from the inside would be unusual, but it seems as though it would have kept them well out of the path of ‘1DA on final.
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I sometimes wonder how you come to your conclusions sometimes. For the official report you should reference the NTSB report but if you listen to the ATC audio in the linked video as well as their explanation of the link the pilots had no reason to think there was an issue and the clearances given were rushed but explicit. In the end the controller should have simply issued ‘4SR Go Around Any time, you as a pilot hear that you should build the habit to just go around.
Cross-wind landings Takeoffs and Landings 3: Normal Takeoffs Takeoffs and Landings 5: You have answered it yourself.